Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Denali National Park Trip 2

     We got back for round two.  The plan was to hike Primrose ridge and get a view of "The Mountain", Denali, from there.  We made the ridge, but soon after a storm was on top of us and we made a hasty retreat back down to the river.  Again, lots of clouds meant no Denali viewing.  On the way up we saw Dall rams and after the storm two Caribou bulls graced us with their presence.  What a spectacular place!  I don't know if it will be this summer, but we will be back to do some more exploring and catch a glimpse of the mountain.
     I took video of the Dall sheep through my spotting scope.  The broomed ram is in the video twice, facing left first and then right.  From my little Dall sheep knowledge, he seemed to be the biggest ram in the group.  Enjoy the video and pictures.  -janis

Hiking up to Primrose Ridge.  In Denali National Park there are not a lot of marked trails and they actually encourage off trail hiking to get the wilderness experience.

A young ram getting up from his bed with a view.

This young ram was bedded a couple hundred yards from us and fed to within 80 yards.  I think  the sheep in  the park know that the pressure is off!

Our sheep viewing/picnic area for the afternoon.



"Could you please drop the tripod legs just a little lower?"



Jennifer took lots of breaks to check out the flowers of the Alaskan alpine environment.



Even being white sheep, they can be difficult to spot when bedded on the light colored rocks.

A closer view of the sheep's bedding area.

The storm that ushered us off the ridge.

The biggest ram we saw that day.

Caribou bulls.

We finished the day teaching Aina how to throw rocks in the river.  She still prefers to hang on to them.

  

Thursday, July 12, 2012

How to Field Judge and Score Desert Bighorn Sheep 5-Guesstimate Score

Here is my guesstimate on the ram in the post titled, "How to Field Judge and Score Desert Bighorn Sheep 5".   I really like the look of this ram at first glance.  He is definitely a ram that needs to be studied very closely because he has the look of a Boone and Crockett ram.  My rough eye guesses his score between 168-170 gross.


This is the subject ram above that we are trying to estimate the score.  In the pictures below I have taken two rams that we know the exact score of and put each angle up against the subject ram.  In the pictures below the ram on the left was harvested by Erik Swanson in 2011 and on the far right is the book ram that was harvested by Ron Arndorfer in 2010 (Click to see more pics and video of each of those two rams that were harvested with Colburn and Scott Outfitters).  Remember that our subject ram is in the middle.
 From the front on view it looks as though our subject ram has decent drop to his horns.  Meaning the bottom of the horns are at or just below the jaw line.  The subject ram seems to have a little flare out on the tip of each horn.  I am conservatively guessing that the left horn is 35 3/8" and the right horn is 35 2/8".  If I look at the ears on each ram they seem to hit the horn in about the same place.  If I look at the scrunched up hair between the horns on top of the head they seem to all three be fairly similar.
 Our subject ram is in the middle, my guess on his left horn is 35 3/8, 14 3/8, 13 7/8, 12 4/8, 9=85 1/8".  Now something to keep in mind while trying to judge a sheep is that it is very important to have data from prior rams that have been harvested in that area, specifically the base measurements.  I don't have the luxury of having seen this ram in person nor do I have the base measurement data.  So when I am faced with this situation I try to compare pictures side by side and see if there is any major differences then adjust my numbers accordingly.  If you are fortunate to get the average base measurements for the unit you are hunting never give the ram you are trying to judge a bigger base estimate.  I would always rather under judge a ram then over judge one.
My estimates on the right horn are 35 2/8, 14 3/8, 13 7/8, 12 4/8, 9=85"  So if you add the left (85 1/8) and right (85) estimates the gross score on this ram should be 170 1/8.  It is kind of hard to count the rings on the horn to determine age on our subject ram because of the grainy pictures but I would estimate this ram to be 8+ years old.  How did your guesses stack up against mine?  This would definitely be a ram that you would want to see and evaluate from every angle and get as many photographs and video as possible to try to make a better guess and estimate of his score.  I would always put a disclaimer on my estimate because without having seen the ram in person it can be tricky to get it just right.

Lets take a look at the estimated numbers and see how the relate to the overall score in regards to percentage:
Mass-99 5/8 or 58%
Length-70 5/8 or 42%

The yellow lines are just to give a rough idea of where each mass measurement would be taken.  It is important to keep that in mind while viewing a ram.  Look for any dents or chips in the horn that may fall within that particular quarter measurement.  I have the left horn being the longest horn at 35 3/8.  Divide the longest horn by four and you get 8 27/32 so our mass measurements for each horn would be at  base(0), 8 27/32, 17 11/16, 26 17/32.  One last thing to remember is that it is very important to find the average base measurements of as many rams that come from your unit as possible.  Try to gather as many photos and official score sheets of each ram as you can and keep a log of your new found data.  This will help give you a baseline to make your guesses from.

Couple of random tips:
1.  Big rams look big no matter what angle you see them from.  If you have any doubts from different angles then it is probably not a book ram.
2.  Big rams kind of take your breath away when you first see them.
3.  Look for a ram that carries his mass throughout the whole horn.
4.  Try to count rings and estimate old age when looking for big rams.
5.  Most book rams will have 100 inches of mass then all you have to calculate is horn length.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Field Judging Elk and Scoring Elk Antlers 4-Actual Numbers

Here are the actual measurements of the bull that was harvested by Colburn and Scott Outfitters hunter Tim Allen in 2009 in Arizona Unit 10 during the archery hunt.  This post is on response to the post titled, "Field Judging Elk and Scoring Elk Antlers 4". It seems that the guesses on this bull have been all over the map from 350 to 420.  I think it just goes to show that pictures can be deceiving.  Pictures, video and live field assessment is necessary in order to be most accurate in your field judging.  One without the other can be dangerous.  One thing that jumps out to me in the video is the size of the bulls body.  It is huge.  Body size doesn't look abnormal when I look at the pictures and that is why having video where you can see the animals movements sure helps when trying to determine score.  This bull also has real good spacing between each point which is a good indication of a long main beam.  Point length again rules the day with 46% of this bulls score.  Remember its all about number and length of points in order for a bull to score high.
This quadrant of photos was taken from the article in Western Hunter Magazine that I wrote.  This quadrant shows the two scoring methods, EAM and ESP.


Here are the actual numbers:
L-(G1-G5)20, 19 4/8, 16, 22 2/8, 13 6/8, (H1-H4)8 4/8, 7 6/8, 7 4/8, 6 1/8, MB 58 2/8=179 5/8
R-(G1-G5)21, 19, 17 6/8, 23 6/8, 14, (H1-H4)8 5/8, 7 4/8, 7 1/8, 6, MB 59=183 6/8
Inside Spread 37 inches
Total Gross Score 400 3/8 (6 5/8 inches of deductions)
Net Score 393 6/8

Here is the breakdown of the numbers and percentage to total gross score:
Points-(L) 91 4/8 + (R) 95 4/8=187 or 46.7%
Main Beam-(L) 58 2/8 + (R) 59=117 2/8 or 29.2%
Mass-(L) 29 7/8 + (R) 29 2/8=59 1/8 or 14.75%
Inside Spread=37 or 9.25%








Congrats again to Tim Allen on such a fine trophy!  As much as I love to pour over the numbers and analyze data it is important to keep in mind that the thrill of the hunt, getting to enjoy God's creation and spending time with friends is the thing that keeps us coming back for more. Try to not let score determine whether the hunt is a success or failure. Stay tuned for another exercise in Field Judging and Scoring Elk from JayScottOutdoors. Be sure to find us on face book( JSO and CSO) and check out our YouTube channel.

Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Roaring Fork River Fishing Update 7.10.12

The fishing on the fork has been good over the last month or so.  The drakes have come and gone and now it is PMD, Yellow Sallies, BWO and still some caddis.  I have been rowing alot and having fun fishing with some new friends.  The water temps are usually around 49 at 6.30 in the morning and at 53-55 or so at noon.  The evenings water temps have been around the low 60's.  We are hoping for a good hopper season in the coming few weeks.  Here are a few random pics from the last few days.  I am thankful to just be around such a beautiful place.  The sound of running water never gets old!






Monday, July 9, 2012

How to Field Judge and Score Desert Bighorn Sheep 5

How to Score Desert Bighorn Sheep

These pictures of this Desert Bighorn ram have been sent to me by a friend who wishes to remain anonymous for now.  What does this ram score?  What are his bases?  What are his horn lengths?  Click the blog post title above to post your guess on the score of this Desert Bighorn Sheep or go to the JSO facebook page to post your score.

Front On Angle
 Left Horn Angle


 Right Horn Angle
 Rear Horn Angle

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Saturday, July 7, 2012

Field Judging Elk and Scoring Elk Antlers 4

Below is the next exercise in How to Field Judge and Score Bull Elk.  These photos were taken by Colburn and Scott Outfitters.  There are several different angles from this Arizona Bull Elk.  What is this bulls gross score?  What are his point measurements?  What are his mass measurements?  How long are the main beams?  How about Inside Spread?  How does the rack look compared to his body?  Post your guesses and scores here by clicking the post title, "Field Judging Elk and Scoring Elk Antlers 4" or go to Colburn and Scott Outfitters Facebook Page
Left Antler Angle

Right Antler Angle


Front On Antler Angle


Rear Antler Angle

Click the post title above to leave your guess or put your score on our facebook page.  I will post the results in a few days.  As much as I love to pour over the numbers and analyze data it is important to keep in mind that the thrill of the hunt, getting to enjoy God's creation and spending time with friends is the thing that keeps us coming back for more. Try to not let score determine whether the hunt is a success or failure.

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